Dear brothers and sisters, May 27, 2009;
Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmathullahi Wa Bharakhathuhu.
A Muslim should obey Allah Subhana Wa Taala alone. In order to understand the Word [Holy Quran] of Allah Subhana Wa Taala the Muslim should consult the authentic Traditions of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Any other person, whoever he/ she might be should substantiate their opinion with the Holy Quran and the authentic Traditions. Please see the current test for authenticity at
To test the consistency with the Holy Quran and authenticated Traditions, one need not -- repeat need not -- study the historical record. One need not study tomes and tomes of writings of the earlier researchers. Such a study might turn up a proof of authenticity and might reduce the effort of the current researcher. However such a study would not violate or contradict the result of current research.
In the field of Computer Science, we have a trade-off between 'Time and Space.' Space represents the collected information that is searched to find an answer. Time represents the time taken to compute the answer. One could reduce the time to the minimum by looking at all correct statements. However the space is very large. One could compute all statements without looking at any statement, but the time would be beyond our lifetime.
The optimal approach is to use some facts and to compute the required answer. Those who study Islam in formal schools have more collected statements [of doubtful authenticity] and those who study Islam now from the primary sources have enough information to arrive at the correct conclusions in reasonable time.
We encourage every one interested in Islam to approach Islam through the primary sources: The Holy Quran and the authentic Traditions of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. It would be best to use Arabic. However until one learns Arabic one could use the translations. Normally the translations are verified by experts in the translated language and Aabic.
Accepting the statements of any person without justification from the Holy Quran and the authentic Traditions is blind faith. Blind faith is one form of Shirk.
As regards the wahabism, kindly read:
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The Great Theft: Wrestling Islam from the Extremists by Prof. Khaled Abou El Fadl, Professor of Law at the University of California, Los Angeles. First published in 2007.
ISBN 978-0-06-118903-6
ISBN-10; 0-06-118903-0
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Your humble brother has studied Islam from 1962 on his own as Allah Subhana Wa Taala facilitated his formal education in Engineering.
Ya Allah! Forgive me if I had made any mistake. Ya Allah! Help us learn Your Deen and convey Your Deen in a way that pleases You. Aameen, Aameen, Ya Rabbil Aalameen.
Your brother,
Mohideen Ibramsha
Was Salaam
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Wed, 5/27/09, Shahid <zakhum@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Shahid <zakhum@hotmail.com>
Subject: [MasjidNabwi] Re: A Child of Zinaa, marriage after zinaa conception -- Abdul-Wahhaab ignores 2:256 -- Mohideen Ibramsha
To: "mohideen ibramsha" <ibramsha7@yahoo.com>, alfathah1949@yahoo.co.in, "iprcci" <iprcci@yahoogroups.com>, "Abdullah Mahaboob" <pamahaboob@yahoo.com>, MasjidNabwi@yahoogroups.com, mikemackay11@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 8:49 PM
Who are the ignorant ones reply in this email? How can discuss this zina issue when they are so ignorant of the term of wahabism?!
What is their credentials? Where have they studied Islam? for how long?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:05 AM
Subject: A Child of Zinaa, marriage after zinaa conception -- Abdul-Wahhaab ignores 2:256 -- Mohideen Ibramsha
Dear brothers and sisters, May 27, 2009; Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmathullahi Wa Bharakhathuhu. May Allah Subhana Wa Taala reward brother Shahid for sending this mail. Alhamdhulillah this mail gives us evidence regarding the deviation of wahhabbism promoted by the rulers of Saudi Arabia as per the information given now in the email from brother Shahid. The parents are non-Muslims. As such they are governed by their religion and not by Islam. === Yusuf Ali 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. === The correct reply [in our opinion] to the question is: === Since your parents are non-Muslims, I cannot answer your question. The answer must be sought from the learned of the faith of your parents. However, I might refer you to the following: === The words "pre-Islamic immune" appear in 1 hadith(s) in Muslim translation. (1) Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him stood when the sun had passed the meridian and he led them noon prayer and after observing salutations (completing the prayer) he stood upon the pulpit and talked about the Last Hour and made a mention of the important facts prior to it and then said: He who desires to ask anything from me let him ask me about it. By Allah, I shall not move from this place so long as I do not inform you about that which you ask. Anas b. Malik said: People began to shed tears profusely when they heard this from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said it repeatedly: You ask me. Thereupon 'Abdullah b. Hudhafa stood up and said: Allah's Messenger, who is my father? He said: Your father is Hudhafa, and Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said repeatedly: Ask me, and (it was at this juncture that 'Umar knelt down and said): We are well pleased with Allah as our Lord, with Islam as our code of life and with Muhammad as the Messenger (of Allah). Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) kept quiet so long as 'Umar spoke. Then Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: (The Doom) is near; by Him, in Whose Hand is the life of Muhammad, there was presented to me the Paradise and Hell in the nook of this enclosure, and I did not see good and evil like that of the present day. Ibn Shihab reported: Ubaidullah b. 'Abdullah b. 'Utba told me that the mother of 'Abdullah b. Hudhafa told 'Abdullah b. Hudhafa: I have never heard of a son more disobedient than you. Do you feel yourself immune from the fact that your mother committed a sin which the women in the pre-Islamic period committed and then you disgrace her in the eyes of the people? 'Abdullah b. Hudhafa said: If my fatherhood were to be attributed to a black slave I would have connected myself with him. (Book #030, Hadith #5825)===
It would be better for you to believe your mother and accept whom she says is your father. Allah Subhana Wa Taala knows best.
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Having answered the question as per the Holy Quran and Sunnah, we are constrained to state that the Tradition attributed to Abu Huraira, Allah be pleased with him, does not seem to be in the Sahih Bukhari collection. See http://www.searchtr uth.com/searchHa dith.php? keyword=child+ bed+stone&translator=1&search=1&book=&start=0
All the 5 Traditions are narrated by Mother Aisha, Allah be pleased with her. We tried to read the transcribed lecture but were asked to login. If the lecture has more material to justify the mail below, we would appreciate if some member could give us the full lecture.
Given the information in the following mail, we urge caution in accepting the statements attributed to wahhabbism unless the statement could be independently derived from the Holy Quran and the authentic Traditions of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
Allah Subhana Wa Taala knows best.
Your brother,
Mohideen Ibramsha
Was Salaam ============ =====
--- On Mon, 5/25/09, Shahid <zakhum@hotmail. com> wrote:
From: Shahid <zakhum@hotmail. com>
Subject: [MasjidNabwi] fatwa: A Child of Zinaa, marriage after zinaa conception
To: Islamic_matters@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 8:42 PM
Zina, Marriage & the Child Question: My parents conceived me outside of wedlock, but got married before I was born, therefore I was born in wedlock. Both of them are non-Muslims, am I to be attributed to my father or to my mother?
Answer: If a man commits zinaa (adultery or fornication) with a woman and she becomes pregnant and he marries her whilst she is pregnant this marriage contract is not valid and the child is not attributed to the man. The Prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم said: "The child is to the bed and the stone is for the adulterer" [1] i.e. the child is attributed to the mother and her relatives – her parents, children and those outside her nuclear family. The adulterer has no relationship with the child and as mentioned before, the marriage contract is not valid.
Answered by: Shaykh Abdullaah Abdur-Rahmaan Al-Ghudayyaan [1] Narrated by abu Hurayrah in Saheeh al-Bukharee Vol. 4 #6432 with the wording below. Also found in Muslim, Abu Dawuud, at-Tirmidhi and others.
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